Винипежские страсти!

[rusic]

Почему Украина тогда не объявит войну России???

Потому что Украина ни на кого не нападала.

[rusic]

Чтобы тут товарищам скучно не было, пусть изучают английский, пригодится в Канаде.
Доклад ООН от 8 октября 2014 г. основные моменты:
- о пропаганде РосСми:

As fighting intensified in August, the instances of media disinformation significantly increased. On 21 August, the Russian TV channel ‘Zvezda’ aired a report alleging shelling of Makiivka by the Ukrainian forces in order to liberate it by Independence Day on 24 August. The video was later removed from the channel’s website. The same day, the National Security and Defence Council Information and Analysis Centre and the public initiative StopFake tracked down the actual footage of the supposed rocket blast and established that it was filmed on 2 July 2013 in Baikonur (Kazakhstan).

- про Майдан:

According to the Office of the General Prosecutor, the pre-trial investigation into the mass killings of peaceful protesters has been completed, and files of the proceedings were disclosed to the three former ‘Berkut’ officers. This marks a shift in the criminal proceedings to the trial stage. This is the first time all case files will be disclosed for familiarization, not just to the three suspects, but to all parties. This should clarify whether all required procedural inquiries were made and if this was in accordance with the law. Some lawyers consider that certain inquiries are yet to be done and that the case will not go to trial soon.

- об аннексии Крыма из предыдущего доклада:

Underscores that the referendum held in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol on 16 March 2014, having no validity, cannot form the basis for any alteration of the status of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea or of the city of Sevastopol;
Calls upon all States, international organizations and specialized agencies not to recognize any alteration of the status of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol on the basis of the above-mentioned referendum and to refrain from any action or dealing that might be interpreted as recognizing any such altered status.

- об участии российских действующих военных на территории Украины:

The sharp increase in civilian casualties towards the end of August is largely due to the intensified fighting, including the use of heavy weaponry and indiscriminate shelling in densely populated areas, as a result of the influx of an increasing number of foreign fighters, including citizens of the Russian Federation, as well as former or current servicemen ‘on leave’, in support of the armed groups of the self-proclaimed ‘Donetsk people’s republic’ and ‘Luhansk people’s republic.

- ДНР - террористическая организация:

.Armed groups continued to terrorise the population in areas under their control, pursuingkillings, abductions, torture, ill-treatment and other serious human rights abuses, including destruction of housing and seizure of property. They abducted people for ransom and forced labour and to use them in exchange for their fighters held by the Ukrainian authorities. They also continued to practice forced mobilisation of civilians and threatened the local population with executions. Reports also continued of parallel governing structures being set up in the ‘Donetsk and Luhansk peoples’ republics’. An unlawful ‘criminal code’ was adopted by the so-called ‘presidium of the council of ministers’ of the ‘Donetsk people’s republic’; and entered ‘into
force’ on 18 August. Modelled on the criminal code of the Russian Federation, its provisions
include the establishment of military tribunals to implement death sentences to be applied incases of aggravated murder.

- о претеснении крымских татар в Крыму:

With regard to the situation in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, OHCHR notes with concern the continued human rights violations that are generated by the introduction of Russian Federation legislation, in contravention of General Assembly resolution 68/262. Recommendations from previous report remain unimplemented. To the authorities in Crimea and the de facto governing authority of the Russian Federation, OHCHR makes the following recommendations:
p) End pressure and intimidation against the Crimean Tatars linked to the Mejlis, including the multiplication of searches of private property under the pretext of combatting extremism.
q) Strengthen the security of Crimean residents by acting to curb human rights violations committed by the “Crimean self-defence” groups.
r) Guarantee all fundamental rights to all persons in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, including freedoms of peaceful assembly and association, expression, religion and movement, as well as right to education and guarantees of economic and social rights. Investigate the cases of alleged killing and enforced disappearances of Crimean civil activists (Reshat Ametov, Timur Shaimardanov, Seiran Zinedin, Leonid Korzh, Vasyl Chernysh) and hold accountable the perpetrators.
s) Ensure that citizens of Ukraine who fled the conflict in the east of the country and go to Crimea are not forcefully resettled in the Russian Federation.
t) Ensure monitoring of the human rights situation in Crimea by the UN HRMMU.

http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Countrie ... kraine.pdf
И на последок, чтобы повеселить Марусю, видео о том, как бравое ополчение недоросии на пару с российскими журналистами "защищают" бабушек в Донецке:
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[Antoxa]

rusic, что то я вас не понимаю. Вы сами предложили закрыть провокационную тему и при этом сами же "набрасываете на вентилятор".

Очевиден факт, что никто из присутствующих не обладает полной и достоверной информации о происходящем, но почему то каждый готов делать выводы, убеждать и осуждать.

Все мы здесь - люди:
- которые не имеют никакого отношения к действиям правительств своих стран
- которым нечего делить между собой
- которые привыкли дружить друг с другом не зависимо от страны происхождения

Почему мы должны что то менять в устоявшихся взаимоотношениях?

[rusic]

Antoxa, набрасывает ООН. Это они такие доклады выдают.
Пишу я тут, ибо люди почему то умудряются верить, а другие подпитывают эти бредовые идеи о фашизме в Украине и распятых мальчиках, о каких то абстрактных "правосеках" в Виннипеге и про дискриминацию по национальному признаку.
Я за то, чтобы не просто закрывать такие темы, но и удалять их.

Почему мы должны что то менять в устоявшихся взаимоотношениях?

Я вас не прошу этого делать, не приписывайте мне то, чего я не писал.